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indigo3187 Says:
Nov 9, 2009 - access to a waiting list is not the same as access to health care.
BenkaiDebussy Says:
Nov 12, 2009 - Wait times for serious, non-elective procedures, or visits with specialists or primary care physicians, is roughly the same in other countries as in the UHC. It's a myth that wait times are substantially longer, with the exception of them being longer for non-urgent procedures, like a hip replacement or something. Even then, if you're in the UK you can still choose to purchase private insurance, so you could have UHC *and* private insurance if you want.
sanchez1973 Says:
Nov 13, 2009 - We dont need more new taxes and a Nanny State. BO is crashing the dollar with cap+trade, new taxes across the board, and chasing whats left of industry offshore. Socialized medicine puts us at the mercy of the Fed govt to do with as it wishes. Why isnt BO cutting tax breaks for corps that off shore jobs, imposing tariffs on imported goods, and cutting tax on small business. Oh, because that would heal our free market economy which he hates. BO wants to see our country fail, its obvious.
SandCmpbll Says:
Nov 17, 2009 - Jesus. I know you have a mind of your own. Why are you parroting this obvious swill? I mean, seriously, the reason we have this mess is because of the economic policies of the past 30 years. Bush just solidified the mess. And we don't have a true free market system, if we did, the corporations would be allowed to fail. Instead they get free money and personhood. BO doesnt want the country fail. WE fail as citizens because a nice portion of us are uneducated and eaily manipulated.
SandCmpbll Says:
Nov 17, 2009 - Thank you.
jsbebop Says:
Nov 19, 2009 - excellent discussion. i'm happy to have found this...
NewRevolutionLeader Says:
Nov 26, 2009 - We need free health care as soon as possible us regular hard working and poor people are dieing.Most people who hate free health care also say they are Christians and I do not want to associate with those people who claim to love God and love their neighbors then go out and petition giving everyone care they need because some health care companies brain washed them into believing it's communism.If you think free services is communism give up your police, fire department, public schools, and ect.
rp518dan Says:
Dec 5, 2009 - I have some of the best health insurance available, as a union member. If I want to see a specialist, I have to wait 6 weeks, unless I want to settle for a bad doctor, like those who have Wellpoint or Aetna... they have to wait a long time too and my insurance would move me ahead of them in line. Wellpoint and the other innsurance companies have accountants vetoing the orders of doctors. We don't hear about that from the Republicans and their employers in the insurance industry.
hadenufnow Says:
Dec 19, 2009 - I am packing approx $500,000 worth of med problems I self medicate & presently have under control.. I don't have money to buy insurance even if it is a dollar, besides, I do not believe in Insurance or being overly insured... I have no problem living & dying with as little intrusion from Insurance & doctors as possible..So just stay away from me & my few dollars.....Save your own money for yourself,,,,, I don t ask you for anything...It is NOT my birthright to have health Care Anyway.......
peymaania Says:
Dec 29, 2009 - Does Self Medicate = Smoking Pot??? Just curious??? If so, please stop, since Weed can lead to Alzheimer's disease and Dementia!
duck24x Says:
Jan 28, 2010 - EVERYONE who votes for Democrats and Republicans should be DENIED MEDICAL CARE, to punish them for the misery and slavery that they have caused: for lowering the quality of life for the rest of us! That is the ONLY way we can force Greens, Socialists, Communists, Independents and Libertarians onto ballots and into legislature and win true democracy.
cheezer57 Says:
Feb 2, 2010 - There has not been one red cent of new taxes under Obama; so you can stop that nonsense here....He is just eliminating the Bush tax cuts (To the wealthiest Americans) that has put us in this mess, in the first place...With those tax cuts we could not pay for the 2 wars, or anything else because of that moron...How could you listen to what these guys are saying, and still come away begging for more from the Insurance industry...Are you a masochist ?
hadenufnow Says:
Feb 13, 2010 - hey ducky dude,, the people wid all da money already ditched it and laid off all da workers soze no slimy hands can git to it...all this debatin jus gabe the pubnlicans all da time they needed to ditch da wads...so git over it man..& git a job...
cheezer57 Says:
Feb 19, 2010 - Ha!....Just came over the wires!....Wellpoint is raising their premiums 39% out in Cali....39%!!!! It's STARTING!.......Get ready fools!......More to come!.....They got us all by the short ones. ....It's what we deserve, since we laughed off single payer.....Republicans, and conservative Dems. (Really Repubs, in sheeps clothing) are total and utter MORONS!
morganbesh Says:
Feb 20, 2010 - Do people realize what the private health insurance industry is all about? They market themselves as an industry out to help you when you get sick. But in all reality, they're bottom line is to increase their multi-billion dollar profits and deny you coverage when your expenses are taking a toll on their corporate coffers. I guess only when millions of Americans more are becoming bankrupt, sick and being denied coverage, will they learn that the private health insurance industry needs to go.
cheezer57 Says:
Feb 21, 2010 - Bingo , Morganbesh!....I love smart people!....Isn't it amazing that there are so many people, so ready to vilify the government, (not to say that they are perfect), but are freely willing to take whatever the Corporate Gods are handing out.....If it weren't so sad, it would be laughable....They get things handed to them right from the horses mouth, (Wendell Potter) who, by all appearances, has no axe to grind, except to alert us all to the hypocrisy, and we still turn a deaf ear..Sad, very sad.
ldsmess Says:
Feb 22, 2010 - Until there are not people like the president of IAG Insurance living in 50 room mansions whie people are turned down for treatments .... and every Tom DICK and Harry stop making money from health care, you Americans will never learn. END THE GREED AND SHARE YOU SPOILED SUV DRIVING OBESE AMERICANS.
morganbesh Says:
Feb 23, 2010 - Did the American people really laugh off single payer? Single Payer does have a lot of support from the American people, and yet it has never been given a chance in congressional talks. Why is that? Why is it at the end the senator cannot even give a valid explanation of why single payer cannot pass?
cheezer57 Says:
Feb 23, 2010 - Not enough people, and that's the shame of it.....And you're correct, it hadn't been given the hearing it deserves, in Congress....That's because the Know-nothings, (on the right mostly) had no problem selling it as Socialism (With a capital "S"), as opposed to socialized medicine. Something every other Western free market system enjoys, with a lot less complaints than we have with our own, mostly privatized system...Insure our house and car, fine..Just not on decisions of our nations health.
hadenufnow Says:
Feb 25, 2010 - Hey its people on the LEFT that do not want blomacare.,.. They say they do not want to make the elderly suffer with a HALF TRILLION in CUTS to MEDICARE blom is proposing in all three proposals...just for one thing.. and they are totally against the "SPECIAL""DEAL with the UNION Cadillac 40% Exemption that gets passed onto the DEMS in HIGHER Premiums.. It's the DEMS that DO NOT WANT anything OBLUMMERCARE.. It be POISON... Nobody wants it...
BlackaBeanJuice Says:
Feb 27, 2010 - Free Health Care Is Not Affordable I'd Rather Die Than To Have My Country Fall Into Poverty More. I Mean Universal Health Care Makes The Area or Country its At Poor. Since You Need Taxes To Full That Void Because Med Supplies Aren't Free. Sure Some Have Been Able To Do This, But We as Americans Can't. We Are To Greedy. Its Like That Story If You Give A Mouse A Cookie He's Gonna To Need Some Milk. If You give Us Free Health Care We Will Need To Give Up Something Else To Support The Finances.
jhlambe Says:
Mar 4, 2010 - How about we give up two wars?!
SkylineToTheSeaAndMe Says:
Mar 6, 2010 - Because he and everyone else in Washington (including Obama) are paid off by the Health Insurance Industry as well as the Pharmaceutical Industry. If they don't cowtow to these industry's politcal agenda, they no longer get to suck on the corporate money teat.
brandon71085 Says:
Mar 10, 2010 - @ BlackaBeanJuice: Speaking of greed. Perhaps we can cut into the annual billions of corporate welfare?




KaliYugaForKiX Says:
Nov 9, 2009 - it wont be just muslims dancing in streets this time AMerica ,enjoy your civil war