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Pinnertop Says:

Nov 29, 2009 - One day American will get to where Europe is now. Our National Health Service is not perfect, but what is? We Brits would fight with all our collective strength to preserve it. I am a beneficiary of it, having spent 3 months in hospital with blood poisoning when I was young. My parents had to pay not one penny. It is also exceptionally good value - we pay one third of what Americans do and our health care is UNIVERSAL. Emergency treatment is free to anybody, including foreigners.

basfranken Says:

Dec 4, 2009 - It's not the goverments job to take care of you but it is a society's ethical obligation to provide decent health care to sick fellow citizens. We in the Netherlands have a mixed public/private system which works very well. There is a big deal of goverment involvement but then I think the difference between Europe and the US is that in Europe the goverment fears the people and in the US the people fear the goverment....

Knightmessenger Says:

Dec 14, 2009 - Wait, why do you say health care is a right in just the "civilized" countries? If something is a right, then everybody is entitled to it regardless of the time, place, wealth or level of technology. You can't have a "right" to something that infringes on other people's freedom. Do you really feel it's all right to force a doctor to give you medical care without compensating him/her?

Knightmessenger Says:

Dec 14, 2009 - Yeah, health care is a billion dollar industry. What's your point? Isn't the movie industry also a billion dollar industry too? All their films make millions today and yet ticket prices and dvd prices are high. Why doesn't anyone complain about them being greedy and ripping people off? And you might be thinking that movies don't provide something essential to living while health care does but that's not my point.

diezungen Says:

Dec 14, 2009 - Yes, Pinnertop...one day Americans will have the same rights that Europeans have now...but it will probably take violence to achieve those rights.

POTismedicine Says:

Dec 22, 2009 - im canadain our health is 100% free , ive never seen a cash register at my docters office, no long waits , same if not better care than americans, infoact our government has supplied enough H1N1 vaccine for every canada free of charge.... i dont understand how it wroks in the states , my question is how much is it to go to the doctor for a checkup , without insurance?... how much is it to make an emergency trip to the hospital ? how much are surguries ... see i dont understand this

POTismedicine Says:

Dec 22, 2009 - and how much is the H1N1 vaccine in the states ??/, and is there much around ???..... our government give it to us free of charge they have enough for every canadain for months now there was never a shortage, i think 98% of our schools are vaccinatted allready grades k-12 ... how much is it for the shot in the states>????

hadenufnow Says:

Dec 22, 2009 - Pandemic was a money grab & a wide door open for mass mandatory inoculations similar to what happened in NY and is in Legislative House for Mass where failure to get inoculations will result in jail,, huge fines & quarantine.. People don't believe the media anymore..

hadenufnow Says:

Dec 22, 2009 - Freak boy ""dingy harry"" on page 1000 in the bill placed a statute where the bill cannot be rescinded or repealed without 67 senate votes in favor..a virtual impossibility.. .......What a jackass,,,, .......We'll just find another way to make it more difficult for those freaks to face people in public for the rest of their miserable rotten lousy lives.

residentzombie Says:

Jan 6, 2010 - You pay for it with your high taxes.

residentzombie Says:

Jan 6, 2010 - Doctors don't work for free, college professors don't work for free, medical colleges don't teach for free, medicine isn't free, durable medical equipment isn't free, nurses don't work for free, and governments do tax the health care industry. Nothing is free my friend.

POTismedicine Says:

Jan 6, 2010 - @residentzombie im not stupid ... why dont you think before you comment, im canadain our health is free OBVIOUSLY DOCTERS GET PAID very well, my mother is one ....i know health costs are paid for with tax , im 21 i have a job i pay income tax and house tax , which is LOW compared to america, and i have to pay GST ( goods and service tax) 13 cents on every doller , and we get our gst tax back 4 times a year, we also get our income tax back usually 80% on our T4 tax return

POTismedicine Says:

Jan 6, 2010 - @residentzombie and as i said before we have income and property tax JUST LIKE AMERICA and our tax is lower , and THEY GIVE OUR TAX BACK TO US, our tax is less than america AND THEY GIVE US HEALTH in return and they refund our tax EVERY YEAR , we have goods and service tax which is nothing ( 13 cents on every dollar, which is given back to us 4 times a year ) and we dont pay taxes on groceries like eggs milk bread , baked goods , meats , fish poultry, vegtables , and we get our GST back any way

POTismedicine Says:

Jan 6, 2010 - @diezungen we have the same free health as Europeans because Canada is part of the british common wealth an empire we have 2 flags the Canada flag and the Union Jack , we are part of the british empire a commonwealth of 53 countries BATTLE READY and strong , you say america will invade england , thats funny do u understand the full combined force of the royal airforce and royal navy? all 53 countries it DWARFS americas force... good luck with that ...GOD SAVE THE QUEEN

POTismedicine Says:

Jan 6, 2010 - @Pinnertop very true im canadain , canada, australia and 51 other countriesare part of the british commonwealth , no one would stand against england ,all or money has the queens face on it , our airforce is called the royal canadian airforce and has the same RAF symbol as britian, england is VERY strong that is why britain and the rest of the commonwealth has free health, what can an american dollar buy in europe.... pack of matches??? poor bastards and their failing economy

residentzombie Says:

Jan 6, 2010 - Yes, because Canadians are not funding a global empire of military bases are endless wars across the world. You are twisting my statement to make it seem as if I am saying that 100% of your taxes go to fund healthcare. Neither do Americans pay taxes on basic groceries either.

MrMortgage1 Says:

Jan 12, 2010 - insurance doesn't have to be that expensive - take a look at cheapest-insurance . info and see for yourself.

wantwit Says:

Jan 15, 2010 - It is useless to attempt to argue any logical point with collectivists such as these. You will be enslaved to the collective under dear leader and you will do it willingly.

Pinnertop Says:

Jan 17, 2010 - @Jayc2400 I have just been reading your comments regarding health care - I fear your irony will be lost on too many Fox-watchers though. We in the UK are generally proud of our health service. Everyone is covered, rich or poor, old or young. The system is funded through general taxation, but run by health care professionals. It is not pefect, (what is?) but improving all the time and I believe every civilised society should take of people when they are ill.

Jayc2400 Says:

Jan 19, 2010 - Who said I was against universal care?

Pinnertop Says:

Jan 19, 2010 - How I agree with you about our health service. I simply find it amazing that so many Americans are demonstrating NOT to have free health care! We Brits have our health care actually very cheaply and long may that continue.

josharagon09 Says:

Jan 24, 2010 - there an alternative to high insurance cost. Consumer driven health care. Health and dental plan for the whole family only 39 a month. Nation wide coverage, no deductable, no limits, no waiting periode. I offer that plan.

estudiantedelaBiblia Says:

Feb 1, 2010 - Of course this is a no-brainer, but it is good to hear it just the same. Its ALL about money folks! The insurance companys do NOT want you healthy. The term healthcare is grossly misleading; for if people were truly healthy, they would NOT need to visit physicians nearly as often. The medical industrys Cash cow would be dead.

davijeph Says:

Feb 9, 2010 - @Pinnertop I second what you say, I to am a Brit and cannot believe what I am reading about the Americans health service/care system Costs twice the UK's and still they still suffer bankruptcies,ruin,third rate care if you are under insured or cannot afford insurance and it's getting worse,Wantwit I assure sure you I,m no a collectivist but facts are facts your great country is in the process of pulling itself apart over health.The European models work better than the USA's .NHS is very good.

hadenufnow Says:

Feb 11, 2010 - i be lookin for chumps to pay fo my helf caya NOW..gibbet to da blomadon fo da HELF CAYA plan man....i needs you to pay fo me an my byotches wid all da kids be poppin out wid all da drug an alcohol rehab an all goin on..an smile when i told you dat man...it all be worf it man..,all be worf it....